Award winning author Katie Ganshert joins the Wednesdays With Watson podcast. Amy & Crissy sit down with Katie as we continue our series on trauma and the enneagram. Katie brings invaluable insight into this topic as an enneagram Type 3. This fun, oft light hearted conversation is deep in the truth and helpful to those who are Type 3's or love someone who is.

Enneagram 3’s, often called “The Achievers” are high performing and are often rewarded in a denomination the world recognizes. This type struggles to separate themselves (hence their value) from their achievements. They can get caught in the “hamster wheel” of success and achievement as a means of meeting their core desire, to be SEEN.

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All 3 participants would probably agree that the big takeaway is AWARENESS. Katie reminds us if we are AWARE then we can deal in the real. If we are aware of how God made us then we can properly address trauma and everyday life. Taking the time to understand the way God made you can truly be transforming.

The story of Hagar in the wilderness is found in the book of Genesis, Chapter 16. Jehovah El Roi–“The God Who Sees” is such a precious promise for all of us and especially if you are a Type 3! Katie encourages listeners to separate themselves from their achievements and know that you are seen even if you never accomplish another thing!

Some of what you will hear….

Question: What is your favorite part about how God made you? (2:13)

Question: Can you tell me what it felt like when you realized your core fear/motivation? (5:40)

“I also know what the world values” –Katie Ganshert (7:09)

“I want to bring value into a relationship, because I feel like that is how I am seen” (7:40)–Katie Ganshert

“It is so much work to believe the Truth, it is exhausting” (11:30)–Katie Ganshert

Question: “Do you think that the awareness of the core fear has helped you?” (12:30)

“It is super empowering to understand why we feel a certain way” (13:25)–Katie Ganshert

Katie shares with us how she knows she is operating in her deficit. “It is like this exhausting place….stop trying to get your value from that person or that relationship..”–Katie Ganshert (16:11)

Question: “When you look back on your life can you identify a traumatic event that highlighted this core fear?” (18:13)

My core desire is I want to be validated I want people to come along side me and say “that’s hard”– (21:00)–Katie Ganshert

“Nobody knows that we are struggling because I am performing”– Katie Ganshert (21:51)

“Secondary trauma”– (23:17) Katie Ganshert

Question: “How can understanding and awareness help enrich your relationship with God?”  (24:48)

“God sees me”–Katie Ganshert (25:31)

“I have to sit in His presence so that the truth can sink in..” (26:55)–Katie Ganshert

Question:  “How have the last 20 months been for you and are there other things that you can share with other 3’s–(28:45)

“Shame is the game of not our God”–Amy Watson

Question: “What would you love the world to know about 3’s, how can we help you in community?” (34:31)

“Sometimes we aren’t ok”–Katie Ganshert
“Grace, if they react poorly, we need Grace”–Katie Ganshert

39:11
“We all need grace, but especially the 3’s”–Crissy Loughridge

He is Jehovah El Roi–The God Who Sees. Genesis 16

You are:
Seen
Known
Heard
Loved
Valued

Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
Podcast Cover Art: Brittney Knight
Original Logo Design: Anna Roberts