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Trauma, Loss & The Enneagram: Crissy Loughridge, Type 6–Finding Safety, living in community with the loyalist
This week on the Wednesdays With Watson Podcast, Crissy Loughridge joins Amy in the interviewee spot as she represents our enneagram type six. We are are on a mission to help people understand themselves better so that with a gospel centered approach, we can live in the fullness of the life give to us. We all have experienced loss and trauma and as of the publication of this podcast still living through a pandemic. Crissy helps us understand fear and compromised safety, listen to this conversation for you or someone you know who has an intense fear of the loss of safety.
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Enneagram Six Core Fear:
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“The Enneagram type six is operating out of the fear of fear itself. They are also very concerned about being left without support”–Karissa Harrison, Enneagram coach.
Enneagram type six finds their happy place in safety and opinions of others. They tend to make decisions by committee, whether that be their busy heads (and their own committee) or an actual group of people that provide support.
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What happens when we lose a person that is our stability and safety, as an enneagram six?
(8:07) Not trusting yourself is a hallmark of the enneagram six
(9:44) How do we trust God when trauma and loss occur and you identify as an enneagram six?
(10:42) Highlighting the Star of the story, whose completed work on the cross is the place for us all to land in trauma and loss.
(11:53)–John 16–“In this world you will have trouble, but take heart for I have overcome the world”
(12:38) How does satan tricks you up to get you to question God?
(13:54) James “A double-minded man is unstable in all of his ways” (James 1:8)
(16:24) Finding all the loopholes in the all the plans, as they chase safety, they will first look for the things that are wrong with your plan. They are coaches and want us to succeed, not fail.
(18;44) Type sixes are very loyal and extremely protective and loyal.
(19:17) Unhealthy characteristics of enneagram type six.
(22:45) How has community helps type six?
(24:00) Why is counseling important for the enneagram six?
(25:47) How has type six worked during the pandemic?
(27:22) Do you think you don’t struggle in crisis because of how God made you?
“Footprints”–“It was then that I carried you”
(32:17) How can we love and help enneagram sixes? How can we do life better with you?
You are:
Seen, Known, Heard, Loved, Valued
Isaiah 43
Psalm 91
Recapping 2021: Making Much Of Jesus
We made it! Enjoy this 2021 recap episode, click through show notes for episodes that may resonate with you. Happy New Year! Here is to another year fighting for Hope, and desiring to always MAKE MUCH OF JESUS.
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(2:06)- Crissy Loughridge, Shattering Safety (Community Trauma)
(3:26)–Lindsay Tozer, Moving Beyond The Wreckage, Cause Of Accidental Death & Injury
(4:45)–Ann Marie Rivera Roberts, Holding On To The Unseen Hand (Parental Suicide)
(5:45)–Angel Rivera, Living With PTSD, A Warriors Story (Parental Suicide)
(6:25)–Shea Watson, Healing PTSD (Combat Trauma)
(8:03)–Amy Watson, Desiring Wellness
(9:11) Erica Cuni, LFMT, Understanding Childhood Abuse (attachment styles)
(10:07) Jeremy Fox, Licensed EMDR Therapist, Understanding Childhood neglect (ADHD with trauma)
(11:45) Marlena Kandell, Remaking Marley Childhood abuse survivor, suicide survivor and mental health advocate
(13:25) Rebekah Millet, Witnessing Near Death Experience
(14:40) Dr. Patrice Berry, Co-Occurring Disorders
(15:45) Lindsay Tozer, Surviving Cancer (The Body Keeps The Score)
(16:45) Crissy Loughridge, Understanding The Goodness of God in Trauma
(17:35) Troy McLaughlin, Parenting PTSD
(18:57) Randy Mortensen, Grieving The Loss Of A Child
(20:50) Amy Watson, Weaponizing The Gospel
(21:00) Tiffany Countryman, Spiritual Abuse
(22:00) Amy Watson, Raising My Ebenezer
(23:00) Amy Watson, Closing A Chapter, Amy’s Full Story With Music (Phil Baker)
(24:25) Amy Watson, Trauma And The Enneagram (Solo Episode)
(25:30) Karissa Harrison, Understanding The Enneagram (Certified Enneagram Coach)
(27:00) Becky Wade, Trauma And The Enneagram Type 1, Navigating The Inner Critic
(27:45) Amy Watson, Trauma And The Enneagram Type 2, Helping The Helpers
(28:40) Katie Ganshert, Trauma And The Enneagram Type 3, Seeing The Achievers
(29:20) Rachel Odom, Trauma And The Enneagram Type 4, Living In The Middle
(30:00) Sophia Walsh, Trauma And The Enneagram Type 5, Understanding The Investigators (thyroid cancer survivor)
(31:12) Audrey Mabrey, Advocating Differently Domestic Violence Survivor and Advocate
(32:14) Tammy Williamson, Surviving Breast Cancer Survivor
(33:19) Amy Watson, Celebrating 50 Episodes & 50 years, 5 people, 5 decades, 1 God
Trauma, Loss & The Enneagram: Thyroid Cancer Survivor, Sophia Walsh, Type 5–Understanding The Investigators
Amy & Crissy sit down with thyroid cancer survivor, Sophia Walsh. Walsh brings invaluable insight into living with trauma as an enneagram type 5. She candidly shares her story, not just her thyroid cancer diagnosis, but the mental health fall out as well. After a lot of unnecessary suffering, Walsh finally received a diagnosis of Medical PTSD.
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Walsh’s perspective of her journey with Medical PTSD is valuable. Her sincere desire to educate people about PTSD is admirable. She notes that so much of her suffering would have been alleviated if she merely understood trauma, and in some ways, understood how God made her.
“I wish I would have known about the enneagram when I got diagnosed”, she said. As a type 5, she found herself in research mode as she dissected every medical term thrown at her. “I didn’t want the doctor to tell me something I did not already know”, she added. Walsh shares how her core fear was activated when she suddenly found herself on display for the world to see, and she described that attention as uncomfortable, and overwhelming. She identifies with some much of the enneagram type 5 in terms of core fears and desires.
This episode is rich with information about PTSD, Thyroid cancer and, of course, Hope.
Enjoy this episode as we learn more about the enneagram type 5’s and how they process trauma.
Interested in more enneagram information? Check out the episodes before this one!
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittany Knight
Original Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Outro Song, “Marked By You”, Phil Baker
Celebrating 50 years of life, triumphs and miracles: 5 decades, 5 people, 1 God.
This is a special episode that includes guests from Amy’s life over her 5 decades. While many more could have been chosen for this episode, you will enjoy these interviews with the seed planters, people who worked the harvest of a life decimated by trauma and loss. These are people who made decisions that turned out to be life altering, perhaps even life saving.
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First up is Sharon Reynolds. They planted the very first seed with a simple invitation to church, then to Sunday dinner and ultimately in the hearts of the entire Reynolds family. Sharon is on the show to talk about 10 year old Amy, and at the end of her interview surprises Watson with a piece of her own she wrote. There were tears!
Second up, Gayle Dunning (Vandenberghe) is on the show. Gayle and her late husband, Ray, along with their 3 children provided literal shelter for 18 months keeping Amy out of the traditional foster care system. Gayle also is the first person to report to child protective services. After having not seen each other for 30 years, Amy and Gayle have a precious conversation and Gayle serving as another memory keeper.
Third is Jackie McGowan, “Mom McGowan” to all who have been lucky enough to have her in their lives.Dr. Lindy McGowan and his wife, Jackie, founded the children’s home where Watson spent eight years, often described as the best eight years of her life. In a rare interview appearance, she shares her memories of a teen aged Amy and pushing into the college years.
Fourth is Dr. Kristen DeWitt. Kris was Amy’s resident advisor at Clearwater Christian College and has remained a steadfast friend for over 30 years. DeWitt, a professor of psychology at Cedarville University, brings some perspective to mental health as well as a gift to Amy at the end of the interview.
Finally, Crissy Loughridge (no stranger to the podcast) brings us home with a special message for listeners and for Amy.
This is the Wednesdays With Watson podcast 50th episode just “happened” to fall on Watson’s 50th birthday.
Sir, we would see Jesus, always.
“Little Is Much” song referenced:
Songwriters: Kreiger Conrad / Kreiger Donna / Suffield F W Mrs
“I Am”
By Nicole Nordeman
Pencil marks on a wall, I wasn’t always this tall
You scattered some monsters from beneath my bed
You watched my team win
You watched my team lose
You watched when my bicycle went down again
And when I was weak, unable to speak
Still I could call You by name
And I said, Elbow Healer, Super Hero
Come if you can
You said, I Am
Only sixteen, life is so mean
What kind of curfew is at 10 p.m.
You saw my mistakes.
And watched my heart break
Heard when I swore I’ d never love again
And when I was weak, unable to speak
Still I could call You by name
And I said, Heartache Healer, Secret Keeper
Be my best friend
And you said, I Am
You saw me wear white by pale candlelight
I said forever to what lies ahead
Two kids and a dream, with kids that can scream
Too much it might seem when it is two a.m.
And when I am weak, unable to speak
Still I will call You by name
Shepherd, Savior, Pasture Maker
Hold onto my hand
You say, I Am
The winds of change and circumstance blow in and all around us
So we find a foothold that’s familiar
And bless the moments that we feel you nearer
When life had begun, I was woven and spun
You let the angels dance around the throne
And who can say when, but they’ll dance again
When I am free and finally headed home
I will be weak, unable to speak
Still I will cal You by name
Creator, Maker, Life Sustainer
Comforter, Healer, My Redeemer
Lord and King, Beginning and the End
I Am
Yes, I Am
Songwriters: Pat Bunch / Shane Teeters
I Am l
Season 3 Episode 6 Trauma, Loss & The Enneagram: Rachel Odom, Type 4: Living In The Middle
Amy and Crissy sit down with Rachel Odom to discuss living as an Enneagram Type 4. Rachel is candid about her trauma and how she has learned to step into how she was made by God, deep emotion, always enough and never too much.
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Enneagram assessment or contact enneagram coach Karissa Harrison
(3:28) Core Fear of Enneagram 4: Inadequate, flawed or emotionally cut off. Type 4’s also are often operating out of a misguided thought that they are too much or not enough.(3:40) How did the core fear resonate with you?(4:55) Can you tell us of a time when understanding the core fear has helped you? How did you respond?(6:41) Understanding the fear and operating in truth(7:00) Flashbacks, description in the presence of PTSD(7:44) Childhood messaging “implicit messages” “explicit messages” “influencing messaging”, some messages with intent to harm and others without intent to harm.
Contact Amy, follow on Instagram (instagram is where the fun stuff happens).
Enneagram assessment or contact enneagram coach Karissa Harrison
(3:28) Core Fear of Enneagram 4: Inadequate, flawed or emotionally cut off. Type 4’s also are often operating out of a misguided thought that they are too much or not enough.(3:40) How did the core fear resonate with you?(4:55) Can you tell us of a time when understanding the core fear has helped you? How did you respond?(6:41) Understanding the fear and operating in truth(7:00) Flashbacks, description in the presence of PTSD(7:44) Childhood messaging “implicit messages” “explicit messages” “influencing messaging”, some messages with intent to harm and others without intent to harm.
(8:50) It is not okay to be too much or not enough
(9:20) Tell us a little about the happy medium?
(10:47) Shame, shame for not being enough and shame for being too much.
(11:30) Empathy is the Type 4 superpower. “Do you see where it would be advantageous for you to live outside that happy medium?”
(13:16) What do you mean when you give the description of a 20 sided dice?
(14:38) Exposure to prolonged trauma and single incident trauma, living as a 4 with trauma.
(15:49) “My trauma helps me understand the trauma of others, my ability to hold space for them is a gift as I understand.”
(16:28) When you take on the pain of others, do you go home feeling the burden of others?
(17:39) The importance of prayer and leaning on the Lord when we hold space for others
(18:10) John Eldridge “Take Back Your Life”–“We are not meant to take on the troubles of the world, only our village”
(20:15) On a basic level, have you been able to process your trauma because you understand how God made you?
(20:44) Can you speak to the freedom you feel when you live in the understanding of how God made you?
(22:04) Whatever I am feeling, I allow myself to feel those feelings, sit in them and process. Freedom in going to God as who I am.
(22:50) “He is a deeply emotional God, and He made me this way”
(23:15) “How can you show compassion for yourself?”
(23:34) “Tell us how the last 20 months has been as a type 4.”
(25:00) “Do you have any practical tips for type 4’s as they navigate the pandemic.
(26:37) “What do you wish the world knew about type 4’s and how can we help you step out of the happy medium, how do we help you thrive?”
(32:04) Parting words for type 4’s with traumas
Scripture references: I Peter 2:9 Hebrews 4:15 Psalm 139
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Season 3 Episode 5 Trauma, Loss & The Enneagram: Katie Ganshert, Type 3: Seeing the ACHIEVER vs the achievement
Award winning author Katie Ganshert joins the Wednesdays With Watson podcast. Amy & Crissy sit down with Katie as we continue our series on trauma and the enneagram. Katie brings invaluable insight into this topic as an enneagram Type 3. This fun, oft light hearted conversation is deep in the truth and helpful to those who are Type 3’s or love someone who is.
Enneagram 3’s, often called “The Achievers” are high performing and are often rewarded in a denomination the world recognizes. This type struggles to separate themselves (hence their value) from their achievements. They can get caught in the “hamster wheel” of success and achievement as a means of meeting their core desire, to be SEEN.
All 3 participants would probably agree that the big takeaway is AWARENESS. Katie reminds us if we are AWARE then we can deal in the real. If we are aware of how God made us then we can properly address trauma and everyday life. Taking the time to understand the way God made you can truly be transforming.
The story of Hagar in the wilderness is found in the book of Genesis, Chapter 16. Jehovah El Roi–“The God Who Sees” is such a precious promise for all of us and especially if you are a Type 3! Katie encourages listeners to separate themselves from their achievements and know that you are seen even if you never accomplish another thing!
Some of what you will hear….
Question: What is your favorite part about how God made you? (2:13)
Question: Can you tell me what it felt like when you realized your core fear/motivation? (5:40)
“I also know what the world values” –Katie Ganshert (7:09)
“I want to bring value into a relationship, because I feel like that is how I am seen” (7:40)–Katie Ganshert
“It is so much work to believe the Truth, it is exhausting” (11:30)–Katie Ganshert
Question: “Do you think that the awareness of the core fear has helped you?” (12:30)
“It is super empowering to understand why we feel a certain way” (13:25)–Katie Ganshert
Katie shares with us how she knows she is operating in her deficit. “It is like this exhausting place….stop trying to get your value from that person or that relationship..”–Katie Ganshert (16:11)
Question: “When you look back on your life can you identify a traumatic event that highlighted this core fear?” (18:13)
My core desire is I want to be validated I want people to come along side me and say “that’s hard”– (21:00)–Katie Ganshert
“Nobody knows that we are struggling because I am performing”– Katie Ganshert (21:51)
“Secondary trauma”– (23:17) Katie Ganshert
Question: “How can understanding and awareness help enrich your relationship with God?” (24:48)
“God sees me”–Katie Ganshert (25:31)
“I have to sit in His presence so that the truth can sink in..” (26:55)–Katie Ganshert
Question: “How have the last 20 months been for you and are there other things that you can share with other 3’s–(28:45)
“Shame is the game of not our God”–Amy Watson
Question: “What would you love the world to know about 3’s, how can we help you in community?” (34:31)
“Sometimes we aren’t ok”–Katie Ganshert
“Grace, if they react poorly, we need Grace”–Katie Ganshert
39:11
“We all need grace, but especially the 3’s”–Crissy Loughridge
He is Jehovah El Roi–The God Who Sees. Genesis 16
You are:
Seen
Known
Heard
Loved
Valued
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittney Knight
Original Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Season 3 Episode 3 Advocating Differently, The Audrey Mabrey Prosper Story (Domestic Violence Awareness)
What does it mean to advocate differently? This bonus episode of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast is an important conversation with Audrey Mabrey Prosper, domestic violence survivor and super advocate. Her message may not sit well with some, but if we are going to affect change, we must change the narrative. These days, Audrey is advocating differently, join her fight! You can contact Audrey, and and join our fight to change the narrative here.
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TRIGGER Warning–Audrey’s story is at the beginning of the episode, pick. up at 2:53.
Opening clip property of Dr. Phil McGraw, and the emmy-nominated syndicated Dr. Phil Show, owned by the Oprah Winfrey Network. I do not own the rights to this clip listed in the public domain.
(0:00) “He will never take away my future, my happiness, my character, you wanted the beauty? Take it, you can have it”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(6:36) “I truly believe that I will find love again” Audrey Mabrey Prosper
Survivor: “To surpass with great change, thoughts and tenacity”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(8:57) Question: “Can you. tell me what you mean by advocating differently?”
“when we would talk about advocating…a lot of times we were expressing frustration…in 11 years the number of people being impacted by domestic violence has not declined…you start to wonder, what do we need to be doing differently..” Audrey Mabrey Prosper
“There are 3 phases to domestic violence: prevention, intervention and restoration”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(11:20) “We have created a narrative there is a victim and a villain there is a narrative and we aren’t going to change it…advocating differently means changing the narrative…it is not a battle of good versus evil…”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(13:20) “her ex that abused her was going to court had abused another person and I thought wow, all the work we have done to break our silence did not change him as he abused somebody else”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
Scripture
Joel 2:25
Domestic violence statistics
(16:02) Question: “What is your message to victims, survivors and those who love us?”
(19:19) Question: “Why don’t we ask victims, ‘why don’t you just leave?'”
(20:19) “if you stay you could die, if you leave you could die”–Audrey. Mabrey Prosper
The importance of a plan when leaving.
(21:00) The importance of co-parenting with abuser.
(22:00) The importance of community, Audrey’s shout out to the entire Tampa Bay Community.
(26:08) Question: Is counseling part of your story?
“It was incredible for me to have that safe space…I didn’t want to worry my friends and family so I really needed that safe space of counseling”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(27:17) “I want survivor to be able to choose the healing services they need”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(28:53) Question “Is Jesus the star of your story like he is mine?”
(30:15) “It is amazing what God can do if we let Him”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(31:00) “I prayed for Him for 18 months….”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
Christopher Haney’s “victim impact statement”
“We get to choose how we move forward”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
(37:50) If we want healthy fruits, we have to look at the roots”
“Stay curious and look at the roots”–Audrey Mabrey Prosper
Season 3 Episode 4 Surviving Breast Cancer & The Power Of Community, Tammy Williamson
Amy Watson sits down with breast cancer survivor, Tammy Williamson. We believe there is power and Hope in story and we are so pleased to bring you this warrior’s story of hope, healing, and community! Tammy’s perspective is a good one, and is a testament to the power of the human spirit. We are SO grateful that Tammy’s fight, while not easy, is one that is hopeful and helps us remember there are good people in this world. It is your job to be one of those people and to find those people. There is power in community and connection!
Clearwater Christian college alumna meet on the Wednesdays With Watson podcast to discuss Tammy’s journey with breast cancer. Diagnosed at just 40, this mom of six speaks candidly about her journey, what scared her the. most, and some of the traditions she has kept in the years since her battle with breast cancer.
Tammy is open and honest about how she experienced a life threatening disease like breast cancer. She also shares stories of community and even gives us the perspective of some of her children.
Early detection is KEY to survival, and it is the hope that this podcast will serve as a reminder to women and men everywhere.
Enjoy this bonus episode of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast, and remember the power of community!
Season 3 Episode 2 Trauma, Loss & The Enneagram: Amy Watson, Type 2–Helping The Helpers
Thanks for joining the Wednesdays With Watson podcast!! Today’s episode highlights type two enneagram types, and their reaction, response and healing when pain and trauma are present.
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Enneagram, Type 2, also known as “The Helper” has a core fear of being unwanted and unloved. They are motivated to avoid the realization of both. But what happens when the core fear has been realized over and over, what then?
Enneagram Type 2’s are also incredible empaths. They tend to absorb the pain of others often to their own detriment. How do we help people who identify as enneagram type 2’s, especially in the presence of trauma? What do Enneagram Type 2’s need from people who love them?
Wednesdays With Watson creator, Amy Watson represents the type 2. Crissy Loughridge, season 3 co-host, is honest and bold in her questioning with the goal being for those who find themselves in similar situations to understand their worthiness and moreover for those who love type 2’s to provide informed help to their friends and loved ones.
Karissa Harrison is Amy’s enneagram coach and provides a free assessment link on her website, you can find that free assessment here.
We are spending time on this personality framework and pairing it with trauma and loss in an effort to bring awareness to the importance of what motivates us and drives us, whether or not trauma is present. When we are aware of how we are made, we can process pain and trauma effectively. Understanding and awareness also provides opportunities to grow, and live in community with those who are not made like us, but who can help us operate as the best versions of ourselves.
How have enneagram 2’s walked through Covid-19? This interview addresses how type 2’s are processing the current state of the world, including non pandemic related global trauma.
This episode provides both healthy ways and unhealthy ways enneagram type 2’s walk through the repercussions of trauma. What do enneagram type 2’s want their family and friends to know? We address that too in this episode.
Matthew 6:33
Isaiah 26:3
Isaiah 43
Psalm 139
Genesis 1:26-27
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
Podcast Producer & Engineer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Design: Brittany Knight
Original Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Amy’s Enneagram Coach: Karissa Harrison
Season 3 Episode 1 Trauma, Loss & The Enneagram: Becky Wade, Type 1-Navigating The Inner Critic
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Welcome to season 3 of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast!
We are spending the first half of this season, studying how God made us and then using that information to help us process and understand trauma. Were you always who you are or did your trauma make you who you are?
First up, and representing the enneagram 1’s out there is Christy Award Winning Author, Becky Wade. Becky is kind, authentic, delightful, and helps us understand the inner critic of the enneagram one. She articulately explains how she has been able to leverage the inner critic for good and what she does when the inner critic begins its indictment–especially during times of loss, and uncertainty.
Over View Of Enneagram 1:
Core Fear: Being wrong, bad, immoral or corrupt.
Core Longing: To Hear (and believe) “yo are good”.
While the enneagram is JUST a tool, it can be effective when coupled with the gospel. Typically, this enneagram type will often cave to the indictment of their strong, and often loud inner critic. These types need to know that they are good, that they could never work or perform themselves into a good standing with God because that happened with the completed work of Jesus.
So. We can honesty say to all enneagram 1’s–You are GOOD, because He made you that way, though a hefty price was paid.
But what does this have to do when trauma anyway? If we can understand why we behave the way we do (often running from our core fears) then we can begin to live in the tension that is healing–temporarily horrible, but eternally worth it. When this type experiences trauma and loss, they are likely blaming themselves and finding a way to make it right. This is exhausting and unfruitful.
Wade beautifully describes recent opportunities to lean into the pain of loss, and also leaning on her community to help her quiet that inner critic that served to only destroy all that is right and good.
Wade agrees that our identity is in Christ, and also believes that 1 Peter 2:9 is a precious promise. When asked when she was the most content:
“When I remember that I am fully approved, fully forgiven, fully accepted and fully loved. God supplies identity that maters.”
This is a message for all of us, but especially for enneagram 1 types as you learn to successfully navigate the inner critic in you. Learn to leverage it as you continue your quest from healing and living the life that you should not be able to live.
Wade’s overall message to you: You are not alone. She asks others to give enneagram type ones a safe place to be wrong, yet forgiven. She encourages us to help the the enneagram 1 know that while they may be often right, they aren’t always right. 🙂 Wade highlights the importance of that message coming from a gentle and kind voice.
So, what is the superpower of the type 1 anyway? It is,I believe, your desire to be right and a good upstanding citizen. But, I also think your superpower is flipping the switch and seeing the “rightness” is dropping things that don’t belong to you like guilt and shame.
Type 1’s I hope today is the day you stop listening to the lies and remember that no matter what, you stand righteous before an almighty God, once you have surrendered to Him. Your trauma or loss was not your fault, you will continue to blame yourself, and when you do, come back here–we will remind you how much you matter!
Scripture References:
Rev 21:5
Genesis 1:25-26
Psalm 139
I Peter 2:9
Podcast Host; Amy Watson & Crissy Loughridge
Guest: Becky Wade
Producer: Amy Highland
Season 3 Trailer Places, Spaces, and Aces
Welcome to season three of the Wednesdays With Watson podcast! We are so excited to journey with you for another season of reminding listeners that YOU Matter and that there is Hope in spite how it feels in our darkest hours. This season promises to continue to provide resources for those who have experienced trauma and those who love them.
First up this season is a continuation of the end of Season 2, where we strive to help you understand how God made you, and why that is essential to healing from trauma.
The finale of Season 2 features Watson’s experience using a gospel centered enneagram approach to understand and continue her healing journey from 35 years of trauma ranging from childhood abuse to domestic violence.
The second part of Season 3 will highlight trauma in spaces and places (home, work, community, church etc) and also continue to provide aces that promote healing of pain that many have just resigned themselves to endure for the rest of their lives. Hope is for you!
We will continue to highlight the hallmark 3 C’s–community, counseling, and church as vital aces. Also, we will never forget the Star of all our stories, the One that promises to redeem it all and make all things new. (Revelation 21:5)
Joining Watson this season is Crissy Loughridge as a reoccurring co-host! Loughridge will bring a different perspective and depth listeners have grown to love.
Welcome! We are so glad you are here! Let the healing continue!
YOU ARE: Seen, Known, Heard, Loved, and Valued!
Host: Amy Watson
Co-Host: Crissy Loughridge
Producer: Amy Highland
Promotional Graphics: Author, Rebekah Millet
Podcast Cover Art: Brittney Johnson-Knight
Using The Enneagram To Understand Trauma
The enneagram has been a widely used tool in recent years. This effective tool helps us understand our core motivations—and understanding those core motivations helps us understand how we think, feel and behave. Understanding who God made us (fearfully and wonderfully Ps 139) can help us process trauma.
What if we understood why we find ourselves running from emotional pain? What if if we could name our greatest fears? What if we understood those fears? What if we understood childhood messaging? What if we paid attention to how God made us?
WHAT IF?
This episode of Wednesdays With Watson brings Karissa Harrison. Karissa is a certified enneagram coach and brings expertise to the podcast that is in line with listener expectations. Karissa is also a pastor and brings her heart for people to the podcast. This episode provides a gospel centered approach to the enneagram, and is in line with how God made us as we see in Genesis 3:26.
Karissa provides an overview of the enneagram, a greek word, meaning “nine” and “picture”. What is different about the enneagram as compared to other highly popular personality assessments? Karissa tells us, and helps us understand the power of this tool! This tool can be extraordinarily helpful in the presence of trauma.
Centers of Intelligence
Each enneagram type operates in a primary center of intelligence. Centers of intelligence helps us understand how we are processing information and making decisions. Our secondary center of intelligence plays a supporting role. Our third center of intelligence is the one that we suppress and can work against us.
The gut (body) center of intelligence are enneagram types 8, 9 & 1.
The heart center of intelligence are enneagram types 2, 3 & 4.
The head center of intelligence are enneagram types 5, 6 & 7.
Core Fear
Our core fear (or motivation) will inform our behavior. We will avoid our core fear at all cost. We spend tremendous amounts of energy trying to prevent the realization of our core fear. Understanding the enneagram core fear helps us get to the root of what causes undesired behaviors and reactions to life in general. Understanding our core fear helps us process trauma.
Childhood Messaging
Childhood messaging is important for us to understand. Childhood messaging is the message that we experience either directly or indirectly in childhood. There are three types of childhood messaging and it influences the way we show up in the world as adults.
Wounding messages that arrive with an intent to harm.
Injuring messages that arrive without intent to harm.
Influencing messages that arrive from our caretakers without intent to harm.
Core Longings
Core longing is the message each of our hearts need to hear both implicitly and directly. We receive these messages through the truth of the Bible and through community. While nothing on this planet will ever totally meet our core longing, it is helpful to understand what our hearts need to hear. When we do this, we can set ourselves up for healing from trauma.
Scripture References:
John 10:10
Hebrews 4:15
Psalm 139
Eph 3:20
I Peter 2:9
John 3:16
Isiah 43
I Peter 3:19
Deuteronomy 4:31
Josh Bales: “Isn’t That Amazing Grace”
Paying Attention: Trauma & The Enneagram (SOLO)
This episode is a follow up episode to “Because I Matter Too” (YouTube Audio Version)
AMY’S STORY: “This Is My Story, These Are My Songs” (YouTube Audio Version)
Back to the Cheetah Life, referenced in season 1, Hospitals & Courtrooms
Recognizing Childhood Trauma: Attachment Styles Episode with Erica Cuni, LMFT—YouTube Audio
Jireh by Maverick City, Elevation Worship
Scripture: Psalm 121:1, Luke 3:21-22, Psalm 139, Matthew 11:28
Referenced Book:
Referenced Music:
“Tis So Sweet To Trust In Jesus”
O for grace to trust Him more
Lyrics by Louisa M. R Stead
“I Just Wanna Be Real” Chris August
“I may be throwing down words I don’t really understand, I could be talking to myself, but I don’t think I am”.
The enneagram paired with scripture and a coach can yield jaw dropping healing moments in the life of a PTSD patient. How can we use the enneagram as a tool in our ever- growing tool kit? In this bonus episode, Amy shares her experience working with an enneagram coach—gaining awareness and continuing to heal—healing that doesn’t make sense.
Awareness is essential to healing, understanding the blueprint of how God made us can change everything.
Paying attention to trauma, leaning into the pain, and choosing resources to help us heal is the way through. We hope to provide a little of that for you in this episode.
We all have core fears, and desires. Most of us have received wounding messages at one point in our lives. Most of us have realized our deepest fear at one point in our lives. While both of these often start in childhood, they can come at any time, and that leaves us living in our worst fears, and not the best versions of ourselves, or who God made us to be. Often our behaviors are driven by these things. Our coping styles (or lack of coping styles) often originate with our core need not being met and/or the realization of our core fears.
The Wednesdays With Watson podcast has a genesis of Amy sharing her journey with. PTSD. This is one of those episodes, may you find Hope in the healing story, what can actually happen when we pay attention to how God made us?
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Raising My Ebenezer (SOLO Finale)
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This is the follow up to an earlier episode where Amy shares her story and some of her favorite songs (special guest Phil Baker). You can find that episode here. This content was originally part of a cross over event with The Faithful Podcast, with host Stephanie Baker. On her own podcast, Watson leaves listeners on a cliffhanger, and in this bonus episode, she shares the follow up episode with the Wednesdays With Watson listeners who may not have popped over to The Faithful Podcast.
May you be encouraged by the power of surrender, regardless of how painful your life is, or has been, most often times the only way to survive is to walk through it. Watson chronicles one of those such times in this hopeful and creative episode. This is exclusive content and is actually a portion of Watson’s developing manuscript.
THANK YOU to those of you who have continued to walk through this journey with us. We are not done, we are in full on planning stages for Season 3, that title to be announced soon. Until then, we will provide bonus episodes and will continue to remind you that YOU MATTER, and that you are SEEN, KNOWN, HEARD, LOVED & VALUED. Here in the healing zone, we believe that 3 things can drastically change the trauma narrative. It is vital for trauma survivors to flank themselves with a strong community. It is imperative for them to also seek trauma informed counseling and in some form, church can be part of the healing process (this is my experience, but sometimes church is the causation of trauma). We believe in Jesus, and Watson refers to Him as the Star of her own story and firmly believes he can be yours too.
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Finding Purpose In Spiritual Abuse, Special Guest Tiffany Countryman (Season Finale)
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In this season finale of PTSD, Jesus and You, we are joined by special guest Tiffany Countryman. Tiffany is the Founder and CEO of MinistryIsMe Ministries LLC., a Crohn’s Awareness Advocate, a Global Influencer, an accomplished Playwright, a Writing Coach, a member of the Board of Directors for “Neighborhoods Over Politics, INC.”, a member of the Board of Directors for “Sharing Ministries International, LLC.”, a Co-Host of the thriving Podcast titled, “Millennial Motherhood: Uncensored”, and is the delighted wife of Terrence Countryman. Together, they parent two children (Terell & Gabrielle).
It is the primary goal of Tiffany Countryman to lead souls to Christ, to assist others in fulfilling their destinies and to creatively contribute to her community until her mission is complete.
But there was a time when everything fell apart for her and the very institution that she dedicated her life and time, had no grace for her when grace upon grace was needed. Scared, poor, and pregnant out of wedlock, Countryman recalls “I couldn’t even afford to park at the hospital for ultrasounds and checkups”–yet nobody in her church offered to help in any way, instead they allowed her to sit in shame week after week as she at times contemplated abortion. Having grown up without a father, she often found that need met in church leadership, all of whom neglected her in her greatest hour of need. In this candid interview, Countryman offers practical advice for places of worship when faced with a situation like hers. Countryman’s interview will usher the Wednesdays With Watson podcast into our third season, where we will address more trauma in places of faith and worship.
Scripture References I John 4:4
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Guest: Tiffany Countryman
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittany Knight
Original logo design: Anna Roberts
Graphics for all of season 2: Rebekah Millet
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Weaponizing the Gospel
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It is so important that we understand how we use the gospel when we are walking with the hurting, broken and bruised. This solo episode seeks to unpack the use of scriptures often given to trauma survivors. It is important to lead with compassion, to get in the trenches, weep with those who weep and mourn with those who mourn. We must use scripture in context and most important, we need to earn the trust of those need us. Right time. Right place. Right sprit.
This is a trauma survivors plea, use the gospel as the weapon it is not for what it is not.
Scripture References in the podcast:
Mark 5:1-20
John 1:1-2
John 11:35
I Tim 3:16-17
Phil 4:6-7
Mark 1:21-28
Mark 10:46-52
Hebrews 4:12
Luke 9:62
Join the conversation on Instagram, where for the the next 10 days, we will post a scripture often misused in the mental health sphere. If you are listening to this post July 27, 2021—those post are in the highlight section of Amy’s Instagram account.
Song “My Weapon” by Natalie Grant
“Your presence is my greatest weapon, pushing back the darkness, breaking every chain. My worship opens up the heavens, crushing every stronghold, when I speak Your name, cause Your presence is my weapon”
The North Face Of God, By Ken Gire
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittany Knight
Original Logo Design: Anna Roberts
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Grieving The Loss Of A Child, Special Guest, Randy Mortensen
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Little Jay was just five years old, when a mistake changed the lives of everyone around him.
Randy Mortensen joins the Wednesdays With Watson, AKA as “the healing zone” podcast to share his story of losing his five year old son, and shares the crooked roads of pain and despair that took him and where he found Hope and Restoration. He has turned his immense pain into incredible purpose. After living with substance abuse disorder for decades, Randy answered the first alter call he ever experienced and gave his life to Jesus. He tells the story of his journey to God, his recovery from substance abuse and his impactful calling now, including Jay’s House Of Restoration in Haiti.
The Wednesdays With Watson podcast seeks to encourage those who are walking or have walked painful roads in their lives, whether officially diagnosed with PTSD or not, we seek to bring Hope and remove stigma of mental health in the community, family, church, and work place. Keep it here, in the healing zone, we are always going to bring you stories of Hope and resources that educate you and opportunities to help.
If you are interested in the many recovery programs that Randy offers, head to his website. To learn more about Jay’s House Of Restoration also head to that website. If you or someone you love is suffering with substance abuse, head to Randy’s podcast as his podcast seeks to serve you.
Scripture: Hebrews 4:15, Revelation 21:5
Quote by Tony Dungy, “Quiet Strength”–“Life will never be the same, but it won’t always feel like this”
Quote by J.R.R Tolkien: “all the sad things will become untrue”
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PTSD Jesus and YOU: Parenting PTSD, Special Guest Troy McLaughlin
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Podcast Sponsor: Amy Meek of Meek Real Estate. We are INCREDIBLY grateful for her sponsorship of this podcast and our mission to help provide counseling to to those who may not be able to afford it. If that is you, contact Amy Watson on Instagram. To contact Amy Meek about real estate call 352-364-4132 or visit their website.
As we continue our second season, PTSD, Jesus and YOU, we are highlighting PTSD in the stories of others and how they found Hope for the crooked roads of their trauma. Joining the Wednesdays With Watson Podcast is Troy McLaughlin, a fellow podcaster, but a parent of a child who’s trauma resulted in PTSD and all of its fall out.
Sometimes, as Christians, we think that statistics like 1:4 women will be assaulted and 1:7 men in their lifetime does not apply to us. As human and flawed parents want the best for their children–it is a special kind of hard when a statistic like this literally hits smack dab in the middle of a Christ centered–two parent home. Our guest today shares his family’s struggles and fall out from his child’s trauma, much of which they still very much live with today.
Because of the sensitive nature of the topic, we handle this story with the delicacy that it deserves and listeners will be nothing but encouraged as Troy shares the deep lessons of faith, forgiveness, love and moving on through the hard. This is Parenting PTSD
Scripture References: Phil 4:8, Hebrews 4:15, Revelation 21:5
References: Multiple Quotes by Henri Nouwen, find those by visiting his website.
Quote by J.R.R. Tolkien “all sad things will become untrue”
“True belonging is the spiritual practice of believing in and belonging to yourself so deeply that you can share your most authentic self with the world.”
Brenee Brown, look for more resources on her website.
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Guest: McLauglin
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover: Britnany Knight
Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Closing A Chapter: Amy’s Story–This Is My Story, These Are My Songs
After 30 plus episodes, it is time. It is time to tell you the whole Amy Watson story. True to self, this podcast is Amy’s story on her terms and in the most hopeful way possible given the body of trauma that is her story. Special guest Phil Baker recorded some of Amy’s favorite songs and they are interwoven into the podcast.
Sometimes it is time to close a chapter, and at least for the purposes of this podcast, this is the last time this story will be told in a public forum. God could always change that, but in this podcast journey, Amy has found healing and Hope of her own and is happy to close this chapter–the one that built her and the whole reason for this podcast.
Her mission will not die, in fact, quite the opposite. But moving forward, the focus will continue to be on the stories of other people, and the mission will continue to provide Hope in the veins of unimaginable pain and suffering. But God is keeping His promises, and is redeeming all the years the locust stole, and so it is our desire that as you listen to Amy’s story, and her favorite songs, that you will know that the God of the universe is able to and will redeem it all. This earth may not be the place where all the sad things become untrue, but this podcast points you to the Star of the story, Jesus, Who will, one day make all things new.
Our journey has just begun, but this chapter is closing–may you find peace in the God of comfort in Amy’s story, and know it is yours too.
Finished Listening? For the REST and BEST part head here, to the Faithful Podcast
Podcast Sponsor: Pastor Anthony Shannon. Pastor Shannon is hosting the Hard Reset Conference June 22nd-June 24th. You can register for FREE here. This conference will focus on faith, family, fitness and finance and will help you recognize and activate your spiritual gifts. We are so grateful to Pastor Shannon and his support of this podcast.
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Special Music: Phil Baker (you can find his music by clicking on his name)
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Sponsor: Anthony Shannon
Accompanying Podcast: The Faithful Podcast, host–Stephanie Baker
PTSD Jesus and YOU: Defining Safety, special guest Crissy Loughridge
Returning guest Crissy Loughridge is back for a check in from her episode “Shattering Safety” (Season 2, Ep1). When using the most rudimentary definition of PTSD it can be said that at some point safety has been compromised. As the world continues to adjust to life with
Covid-19, everyone’s safety was compromised at one point. Crissy shares her struggle and need for safety and how she is doing with that now. She also helps listeners understand how it has been walking through the pandemic with PTSD herself as well as with Amy. This is the second in a series of 3 “Check In” episodes from guest that have appeared on the podcast this season.
Scripture: Hebrews 13:8
John 16
“Could he accept the more complex truth” excerpt from “Let It Be Me” by Becky Wade.
You can purchase that book here. Find Becky’s social media here:
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This podcast is sponsored by Anthony Shannon, author of Live Generously. We are grateful to Anthony for his generous contribution to our cause. His sponsorship helped fund pro bono counseling for those who can not afford it and also to fund the Wednesdays With Watson podcast.
“You Are” Merchandise can be purchased here
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Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Guest: Crissy Loughridge
Executive Producer: Amy Highland
Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Podcast Cover: Brittney Knight
Song, “Marked By You” used by permission by Phil Baker off his album, Babylon
PTSD, Jesus, and You: Surviving Cancer with PTSD, Returning Guest: Lindsay Tozer
In the first of the “Where Are They Now” episodes, special guest Lindsay Tozer is back for an update. Lindsay told her story on episode 2 of season 2 of the podcast. We check in with her, ask how telling her story was for her and how she has been since guesting on Wednesdays With Watson. Lindsay, a PTSD patient, also battled cancer and a multiplicity of health issues. Lindsay is the text book PTSD patient, her body has truly kept the score, a principle highlighting in the book by Bessel Van Der Kolk, MD.
This episode is vital to our understanding of the body’s response to trauma and what we can do to ensure that we do the hard trauma work so that we can live in whole bodies and no longer be affected by our trauma.
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Guest: Lindsay Tozer
Podcast Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittany Highland
Amy Watson Logo: Anna Roberts
Song, “Marked By You” by Phil Baker, used with permission.
PTSD Jesus and YOU: Understanding Co-Occurring Disorders–Mental Health Awareness Month
Licensed clinical psychologist Dr. Patrice Berry joins the Wednesdays With Watson podcast to help us understand other mental health illnesses and their presence with PTSD. Dr. Berry walks listeners through Bi-polar disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, OCD, social anxiety, and Major Depression. She also helps listeners understand miss diagnosis and strongly suggest that individuals engage a therapist that works for their individual struggles. Not all therapist are created equal and patients have every right to find the right one for them.
Follow Dr. Perry on all social media (TikTok, Instagram and YouTube) and learn more about her credentials here.
May is Mental Health Awareness month and Amy is posting a Mental Health Tip every day this month on her instagram, check it out, and follow along!
You matter, and so do your needs. If you or someone you know needs help, please see resources below:
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Other resources
United States 🇺🇸
Access Help Call 211
Suicide Help 800-273-8255 Text 741741
Domestic Violence Hotline 800-799-7233
NAMI 800-950-6264
Text 741741 free crisis counseling.
POST Partum Help: 800-944-4773
Biblical Counseling nationwide: Baylightcounseling.com
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Guest: Dr. Patrice Berry
Executive Producer: Amy Highland
PTSD Jesus and YOU: Experiencing Near Death (Medical PTSD)
Special guest and award winning author Rebekah Millet joins the Wednesdays With Watson podcast. Rebekah is married with two boys and makes her home in the bayou state. Fiercely in love with Jesus, Rebekah shares her experience of her otherwise healthy 36 year old husband almost losing his life. “I thought it was so odd that the ambulance did not have on their sirens on the way to the hospital”, she said. Rebekah also shares, in part, her own near death experience and how years later she could relate to PTSD symptoms and realized that she could live with them as she understood them. Listeners will hear how she came to learn about PTSD and that some of the things she still endures is as a result of these experiences.
She is a champion of the Gospel and of Christian fiction. Rebekah loves people, and wants to help, so she brought her story to the Wednesdays With Watson podcast. There is no question about the source of this much power in her testimony and she beautifully shares this difficult time in her life in such a way that listeners are encouraged, not traumatized–most will hit stop and feel Hope.
Here are a few of her own words about herself:
“I grew up on beignets and cafe au lait, and love infusing my colorful New Orleans culture into my stories. My husband goes crazy with me rearranging the living room furniture, while my kids share in my love for strawberry Pop-Tarts.”
But she is a warrior, a fighter, and when your faith is hard to find, you can borrow hers.
To keep up with her and to join her on her writing journey head to her website.
Scripture Hebrew 13:8
Isaiah 61:1-6
“Graves Into Gardens” by Elevation Worship and Brandon Lake.
“I am not afraid to show you my weakness, my failures and flaw- Lord You have seen them all, and You still call me friend…there is not a place your mercy and grace won’t find me again.
There is nothing better than You. There is nothing better than You, Lord there is nothing better than You. You turn mourning to dancing, you give beauty for ashes you turn shame into glory You are the only One Who can. You turn graves into gardens, You turn bones into armies, You turn seas into highways, You are the only one Who can. There is nothing better than You, there is nothing better than you, nothing is better than you.”
Podcast Host: Amy Watson
Podcast Guest: Rebekah Millet
Executive Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittany Knight
Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Song” “Marked By You” by Phil Baker, used by permission
PTSD, Jesus and You: Remaking Marley (Survivor, Advocate and Thriver)
Special guest Marlena Kandell, pediatric ER nurse, advocate, child abuse survivor and thriver brings first hand value to the Wednesdays With Watson podcast. Think you can recognize child abuse? Maybe Marlena’s story will help re-frame flawed assumptions about this subject, and what we should observe–and more importantly ACT.
What if a harmed child just wanted you to ask if you cared? What if they just wanted you to ask if they are okay? Marlena shares her own desire to have had just one person ask her even one of those questions. What if just paying attention stopped wounded children from becoming wounding adults? WHAT IF?
Marlena also brings vulnerability to podcast by answering faith questions with beautiful honesty and transparency. She asks the questions we all ask, “Where was God?” She beautifully works out her own answer (or lack thereof) answer to that question.
April is child abuse awareness month, and Marlena is passionate about bringing awareness and solutions. In her advocacy work, she created {Re} Making Marley, an endeavor to empower abuse survivors and to create a safe place to undo child abuse and even have the opportunity to {Re] write our stories. In her [Re] Parenting Series, she guides adults survivors into an encouraging space that allows us to be the parents we never had.
This powerful, vulnerable episode is a must listen–for all of us. It is time to act, start by pressing play. There is a practical way you can help, join Marlena’s Instagram challenge, and help us raise $100 for Philadelphia Children’s Alliance and Prevent Child Abuse USA.
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Guest: Marlena Kandell
Executive Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover: Brittney Knight
Logo Design: Anna Roberts
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PTSD, Jesus and You: Recognizing Childhood Trauma, pt 2–Special Guest Jeremy Fox, LPC, EMDRI
Recognizing childhood trauma is as important for us are the solutions. The solution could be you, and your ability to recognize childhood trauma and so that we can help children’s forming brains, healing them as we recognize.
Special guest, Jeremy Fox, LPC, EMDRI joins the podcast to highlight the effects of trauma on a child’s brain particularly as it pertains to abandonment and neglect in all forms. Jeremy brings his knowledge of a well established trauma informed therapy, EMDR and is an approved EMDR trauma consultant.
He discusses the eight phases of the EMDR process:
1. History & Treatment Planning
2. Preparation
3. Assessment
4. Desensitization
5. Installation
6. Body Scan
7. Closure
8. Revaluation
Why is faith important to healing from trauma? “Purpose in Life Predicts Better Emotional
Recovery from Negative Stimuli.” APA style citation below:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0080329
Schaefer, S. M., Boylan, J. M., Van Reekum, C. M., Lapate, R. C., Norris, C. J., Ryff, C. D., & Davidson, R. J. (2013). Purpose in life predicts better emotional recovery from negative stimuli. PloS one, 8(11), e80329.
ADHD and PTSD article citation
Barkley, R. A. (1997). Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity disorder, self-regulation, and time. Journal of Developmental & Behavioral Pediatrics, 18(4), 271-279. doi:10.1097/00004703- 199708000-00009
The effects of abandonment on the young brain:
DeBellis, M. D. (2005). The psychobiology of neglect. Child Maltreatment, 10(2), 150-172. doi:10.1177/1077559505275116
Perry, B. D. (2002). Childhood experience and the expression of genetic potential: What childhood neglect tells us about nature and nurture. Brain and Mind, 3(1), 79-100. doi:10.1023/A:1016557824657
Wilkerson, D., Johnson, G. & Johnson, R. (2009). Children of neglect with attachment and time perception deficits: Strategies and interventions. Education, 129(2), 343.
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Recognizing Childhood Trauma, Special Guest Erica Cuni, LMFT
Erica Cuni, LMFT joins the Wednesdays With Watson podcast to help us understand and recognize childhood trauma and its effects on a child’s brain. She shares her expertise of Adverse Childhood Experiences and helps us understand the pathology of trauma and ACE scores as well as a CDC study addressing adverse childhood experiences. She cites a Centers For Disease study here.
Erica also helps us understand attachment styles and how they are fundamentally formed by trauma, but also promotes hope and healing. Erica has a passion for helping people and she herself a trauma survivor both in her young life as well as an adult. Erica speaks of trauma, and the poly-vagal industry and integrating into therapy. Finally, Erica shares with us an exciting treatment modality called Internal Family Systems. This evidence based therapy is a different take on popular trauma treatments like EMDR and CBT etc. It is based on the newest research on trauma and how to treat trauma. Find out more information about Internal Family Systems here,
The United States reported almost 2,000 child abuse deaths in 2019. April is child abuse awareness month, and the Wednesdays With Watson Podcast is going to continue to bring awareness so that wounded children do not become wounding adults.
Resources: Prevent Child Abuse, USA
During this month, Amy has a #lostchildchallenge on her Instagram account. While highlighting child abuse awareness month, the host of the healing zone is seeking healing that our guest today insists exists after child abuse. Find those videos on this Instagram handle: instagram.com/authoramywatson.com
Special Guest: Erica Cuni, LFMFT
Executive Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover: Brittney Knight
Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Promotion Video: Rebecca Reed
Song “Marked By You” used by permission, words and music by Phil Baker.
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Desiring Wellness (Solo Episode)
Previously on Wednesdays With Watson:
“I have never prayed for God to heal my PTSD”
That was a live admission and this solo episode examines this statement and as Wednesdays With Watson listeners have come to expect, there is a a twist. This solo episode is a twist on that striking admission in the middle of a live interview.
Do we desire wellness? Is something required of us to get it? Is something required of us to keep it? How does community, church and counseling factor in to our desiring wellness? Why wouldn’t a patient want to get well?
This solo episode examines all of that, and more. In this deeply personal episode, trauma survivor Amy Watson gets behind the mic and tells you what she had forgotten. This episode is meant to highlight the Star of the story first and foremost, but also the journey of healing, and how Jehovah-Rapha is just that, the God Who heals.
This episode is raw and real and is journey of one person’s memory of something she had forgotten, but God had not forgotten, He never does.
Scripture I Peter 4:15, Mark 5, Phil 1:6, Joel 2:25, Romans 8:18
Host: Amy Watson
Executive Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Artwork: Brittany Knight
Promotion Video: Rebecca Reed
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Healing PTSD, Shea’s Story
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Healing PTSD, Shea’s Story
Shea Watson first fought battles of abuse and then he chose to fight for his country. Diagnosed with PTSD in 1997 by the US Army, Shea spent two years in the hospital when the trauma finally demanded his attention. In a Wednesdays With Watson first, this episode is part of a podcast crossover event, but in this episode, Shea tells us what Jesus did.
This is a special podcast crossover event, as Amy joins forces with The Pantry Podcast, of which Shea Watson is one of the curators. He is joined by his wife as well as the curator of The Spiritual Life and Leadership podcast. As Shea shares his story and answers hard questions, Michelle and Pastor Markus Watson do the same.
I Peter 2:9 “You are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, that you may be able to declare the praises of the One that called you out of darkness into marvelous light.”
This episode is hopeful, it is fun, but there is no doubt that it addresses identity and it addresses trauma as well as PTSD.
2 Cor 5:13
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Living With PTSD (A Warrior’s Story)
In November of 1989, the Rivera’s life was changed forever as a the events in their home rendered them all four orphans. Angel is the second of the four, his sister’s episode is the one before this one “Holding On To The Unseen Hand”
In this episode, Angel talks to us how witnessing the horror of his parent’s death has affected him over the last thirty years. He talks about his fight to keep his family; he talks about the people that he loves and he talks about Jesus, Who never left him, and will also never leave you. He talks the demons of drugs and how that almost destroyed his life.
Angel talks about coming out of darkness, into light and we are reminded of I Peter 2:9–and being called out of darkness into that glorious light. We know that we do not love a high priest who is not familiar with our sufferings, and Angel shares that with us too.
Triumph (ing) over tragedy is the thing that happens here in the healing zone. Hope for all the things, because life with PTSD doesn’t have to be lost. Angel proves that to us.
Scripture: 1 Peter 2:9, Hebrews 4:15, Psalm 27:10 “When my father and mother forsake me, the Lord will lift me up” Exodus 14:14
Guest: Angel Rivera
Executive Producer, Editor & Engineer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover: Brittany Knight
Logo Design: Anna Roberts
Song: “Marked By You” by Phil Baker, used by permission with license.
Host: Amy Watson
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PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Holding On to the Unseen Hand (Anna Marie’s Story)
Special guest Anna Marie Rivera Alberts joins the Wednesdays With Watson podcast with her story of the crooked roads of trauma and pain that has led to a beautiful, albeit still difficult life.
Her family’s story made the news headlines. A visit to the scene of the tragedy yielded stories from neighbors who remember the story, 30+ years later. We attempt to tell her story with the delicacy it deserves, yet listeners are still able find Hope in a story that most people would describe as unable to be redeemed. She has broken the generational trauma “curse”.
Hebrews 11:1
For Him “Why”–lyrics. quoted:
“I know down here, I may not understand, so I won’t let go of the unseen hand, because it holds the reasons why”
“What Love Really Means”–JJ Heller
“Who will love me for me, not for what I have done or what I will become, who will love me for me, will somebody show me what love really means?”
Podcast Engineer & Producer: Amy Highland
Podcast Cover Art: Brittany Knight & Anna Roberts
Episode Graphics: Rebekah Millet
Episode Trailer: Rebecca Reed
Host: Amy Watson
**If you or someone you love is in crisis, reach out for help**
NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness. NAMI.org
Text 741741 for free crisis counseling
800-950-6264
Call 211
Suicide Help Line: 800-233-8255
Domestic Violence Help Line: 800-799-7233
NAMI-800-950-6264
Additional support focusing on childhood trauma:
http://remakingmarley.com/
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Moving Beyond the Wreckage (The Body Keeps the Score)
Because we believe that HEALING PEOPLE HELP PEOPLE
Special guest Lindsay Tozer bravely tells us about a moment that changed everything. She describes her life as a “line” in her life as “before and after” that day. Twenty years have elapsed and she wanted to tell her story as part of her own healing process as well as an intense desire to help others.
Lindsay’s story does not get tied up in a nice bow, her body has recorded the events of that day and yet she still has Hope. She still gets up in the morning, and has dedicated her life and her career in child welfare management, county emergency management and is an accomplished musician.
Diagnosed with PTSD twenty years ago, she still lives with triggers, flashbacks, and floodings. She identifies her community as an important component of her healing and some of her loved ones weigh in on how that day affects her on a daily basis. They help her live with the repercussions of that day and have walked beside her through many more losses, cancer and a host of other health issues. The body truly keeps the score.
She still has questions of God, she is not afraid to tell them to the world. She is living with PTSD and yet another person on our podcast that gives Hope in the face of unimaginable grief, loss and health issues. She bravely tells us of her battle to forgive herself as well.
Her favorite song is “Into The Sea” by Latasha Layton and her favorite verse as Isaiah 54:10
“Though the mountains be shaken and the hills be removed, yet my unfailing love for you will not be shaken nor my covenant of peace be removed says the Lord Who has compassion over you”
She has found the three C’s–Community, Church and Counseling as the path to her healing. She calls Jesus her rock and her everything. He is the Star of her story.
Other Scripture Genesis 58.
“Marked By You” by Phil Baker, used by permission.
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Shattered Safety
Because we believe that HEALING PEOPLE HELP PEOPLE
Season 2 debuts with the first guest of the season sharing her story of a night that changed everything. The second season of Wednesdays With Watson highlights the crooked roads of trauma that lead to hope and healing. That road is not always an easy and nobody’s road is the same, so we are here to tell you stories that help you know a story of Hope can be yours too.
So, we are here to continue to give Hope to PTSD patients and those that love them. Press play for Hope because it is here, this is the HEALING ZONE. Let the healing continue.
“Marked By You”, words and music by Phil Baker and used by permission. Find this song on his album Babylon. We are incredibly grateful to him and we love the message of the song. License provided upon request.
Hebrews 4:15, Joel 2:25, Psalm 91
PTSD, Jesus and YOU: Hope for crooked roads of PTSD
This is the trailer episode for Season 2 of Wednesdays With Watson, PTSD, Jesus and YOU! This episode contains clips and a recap of some of season one’s most impactful episodes. [Read More…] about Wednesdays With Watson